![]() Sadly, due to placeholder dialog and script confusion it wound up "heterosexual to the bone", to Gail Simone's chagrin (it was not, as many speculated, due to Executive Meddling). ![]() Black Canary was once supposed to refer to herself as "75% heterosexual," leaving the other 25% up in the air. Les Yay: Canary/Oracle leans perilously close to canon sometimes, and (According to Word of God) was originally supposed to lean even closer than the finished product appeared.As of 2011, it's now just became commonplace to treat it as their name, and they've long since stopped objecting to it. However, the writers themselves often seem to forget this point, as numerous characters (Both on and off the team) refer to them as 'the birds' on a semi-regular basis, and the full "Birds of Prey" title makes an occasional appearance. In later issues the characters also specifically said that it was not their team name when Zinda Blake continues to use it. I Am Not Shazam: "Birds of Prey" is not the team's official name, and was not even mentioned until issue #86.As noted above, many people would prefer either/both of them as the Birds' Kid-Appeal Character to Misfit. In their cases, the fact they regularly had Oracle as their mentor and lead supporting figure combined with Cass' occasional team-ups with the Birds and Steph's fangirl status both help with it. Also with the Batgirls, especially the Cassandra Cain and Stephanie Brown runs (Barbara Gordon's New 52 and Rebirth runs less so, due to how different Babs is as Oracle vs her as Batgirl, and a lot of discourse about which version of her is better).So much so that all three of the Sirens have spent time either teamed up with the Birds or actively as a member of their line-up, for a time. Fans of the Birds of Prey tend to also really like the Gotham City Sirens due to their status as basically an Evil Counterpart (which is ironic as they've rarely fought despite the obvious appeal in that).Naturally, BOP fans don't have a high opinion of Winnick's treatment of Dinah, while many fans of Winnick's GA in turn have never read BOP, have zero interest in it and Black Canary, and don't care enough about her character to mind how she's treated. Canary was a Creator's Pest for Winnick and thus he wrote her with significantly less skill and character, yet meanwhile Birds of Prey saw Dinah undergo a massive Took a Level in Badass while being billed as one of the top fighters in the DCU. Fandom Rivalry: With fans of Judd Winnick's Green Arrow run, due to the completely opposing depictions of Black Canary.It seems like it’s placed there for Fanservice. It’s out of nowhere and odd as a start of an issue. Big-Lipped Alligator Moment: Birds of Prey #3 2010-2011 has a random page of Penguin having a erotic dream of the team “pleasing” him.Simone has often defended it as she doesn't think sexuality should be seen as a negative, especially as the artwork was never afraid to glamorise men as well as women. For others, it's an acceptable and easily ignorable issue, or even genuinely part of the appeal of the book either for attracting male readers or serving as part of the Wish Fulfilment. For some it was an awkward and sexist distraction that detracts from the genuinely strongly written women, and plays a large part in dissuading readers from taking it seriously. The fanservice, particularly from issues drawn by Ed Benes.The second group would also point out that Shiva still dominated the fight and that Huntress herself repeatedly said she stood no chance. The other side will counter that Huntress's insults and dirty tactics, combined with a tiny bit of luck and the fact that neither fighter really wanted to be there, broke down Shiva just enough for her to get in a couple hits. One side will say that Huntress had absolutely no business lasting as long as she did, to say nothing of the fact that she decked such a massively superior martial artist. Broken Base: The Huntress VS Shiva duel. ![]() Fans are split between finding her a charming fit who adds a Kid-Appeal Character to the group, or she's an annoying Bratty Half-Pint who doesn't gel with the group and causes nothing but problems, while her role could be better given to Cassandra Cain or Stephanie Brown. According to Gail she was intentionally created to be Oracle's Bat-Mite, so this makes sense. For examples from the 2002 TV series, go here.įor examples from the 2020 film, go here.
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